tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post9120270778960096780..comments2019-02-13T20:54:50.768-08:00Comments on Electric Duncan: Twisted on Solaris: FailUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-62569070766237959442008-05-29T15:58:00.000-07:002008-05-29T15:58:00.000-07:00Duncan, As a Solaris hack whats up with those stup...Duncan, As a Solaris hack whats up with those stupid partition tags in Nexenta? Like how the heck can I chage them to something more reasonable like /export/home or /usr/local ????? <BR/>Thanks Cris HarrisonCris Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327982138629424161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-48252120366087709252008-05-20T12:25:00.000-07:002008-05-20T12:25:00.000-07:00gibigiane,Thanks! Downloading it now...gibigiane,<BR/><BR/>Thanks! Downloading it now...Duncan McGreggorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155270977759488515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-23259248045992529532008-05-11T18:28:00.000-07:002008-05-11T18:28:00.000-07:00Duncan,Just a note that OpenSolaris 2008.05 was re...Duncan,<BR/><BR/>Just a note that OpenSolaris 2008.05 was released last week. You can find it here<BR/><BR/>http://dlc.sun.com/osol/opensolaris/2008/05/os200805.iso<BR/><BR/>Please give it a whirl!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-51082862501489623292008-03-25T07:44:00.000-07:002008-03-25T07:44:00.000-07:00John,No worries :-) And thanks for clarifying! My ...John,<BR/><BR/>No worries :-) And thanks for clarifying! My bad for not giving a caveat about using "time" ... and perhaps I should have chosen "moderately sensationalist" instead of "tabloid"? ;-)<BR/><BR/>Take care!Duncan McGreggorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155270977759488515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-53357295896482635852008-03-24T23:21:00.000-07:002008-03-24T23:21:00.000-07:00Only just spotted the reply here. I've never been ...Only just spotted the reply here. I've never been called "tabloid" before!<BR/><BR/>I do apologise if I offended - believe it or not, I was attempting to be semi-humourous. Given you didn't state that the performance tests were essentially meaningless, I'm not sure how I was supposed to know that you thought so too. It also doesn't seem to reflect your "Solaris doesn't seem to perform as well" comment. But anyway, I stand corrected.John Levonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852503973350767763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-32511294349821627092008-03-24T14:27:00.000-07:002008-03-24T14:27:00.000-07:00Um, John? Don't you think it's a bit tabloid to re...Um, John? Don't you think it's a bit tabloid to refer to this post as "How Not To Benchmark" or "benchmark OS performance by running it as a VM"? <BR/><BR/>This is a post about running Twisted unit tests on Solaris and exploring Solaris as a development platform. I specifically didn't refer to the toy timings I did as benchmarks, 'cause that would just be outright silly...<BR/><BR/>Their real purpose was to reveal any horrible oddities that may have cropped up for the two systems relative to each other, no to systems running on dedicated hardware. If the Ubuntu VM ran in 5 minutes and the Solaris one ran in 55 minutes, I'd know something was fishy.<BR/><BR/>Due to the completely unscientific methodology used (one run, Solaris resource issues, and no references) I would have thought that the toyness of the comparison was quite clear ;-)Duncan McGreggorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155270977759488515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-50773958017565951712008-03-24T08:58:00.000-07:002008-03-24T08:58:00.000-07:00Danek,This information is invaluable -- thanks! I ...Danek,<BR/><BR/>This information is invaluable -- thanks! <BR/><BR/>I was aware of OpenSolaris (in fact, I was the only one at work, in 2002, who thought it would ever happen) and was delighted when it came out. I had assumed incorrectly that there was a tighter coupling with Solaris 10... if I had taken the time to <A HREF="http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/" REL="nofollow">poke around</A>, I would have realized my error :-)<BR/><BR/>Also, that link you gave to the installer had <A HREF="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/install/files/install_strategy.pdf" REL="nofollow">this link</A> on it's page: a document by Dave Miner that outlines the Solaris Installation Strategy, including an excellent overview of the problem space. This is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to see. Sun has a an exceptional history of producing these documents, and I'm delighted to see that the OpenSolaris project is benefitting from this :-)<BR/><BR/>And that packaging systems looks most interesting. I will definitely be giving that a try -- thanks for the heads up! And in Python, no less! Sweet!Duncan McGreggorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155270977759488515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-58998133634813713672008-03-24T04:48:00.000-07:002008-03-24T04:48:00.000-07:00Yeah, Blastwave is much better than SunFreeware in...Yeah, Blastwave is much better than SunFreeware in pretty much every respect.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/" REL="nofollow">Project Indiana</A> is Sun's "break it and make it better" project that includes a real packaging system with network repositories, ZFS root and so on. If you don't want to try that (it's a bit bleeding edge still), you should definitely use <A HREF="http://developers.sun.com/sxde/" REL="nofollow">SXDE</A> over Solaris 10, as it's much more up to date and targeted at developers.<BR/><BR/>The <A HREF="http://wikis.sun.com/display/BigAdmin/BootDiskLayout" REL="nofollow">latest Solaris partitioning standard</A> is to put everything into a single /. /tmp is backed by RAM and swap, not a normal partition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-22719802762127092242008-03-24T03:31:00.000-07:002008-03-24T03:31:00.000-07:00You may want to have a look at Nexenta: http://www...You may want to have a look at Nexenta: http://www.nexenta.org/.<BR/><BR/>I won't discuss the legal issues with it, but it brings apt-get to solaris, which makes it a much more comfortable environment for developers.<BR/><BR/>I had the same look at Solaris few months ago. For me, the main differences were with process management. I'm curious to see the other problems you had.Thomas Hervéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01117940814430390042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8825992.post-85397416713515925812008-03-23T23:16:00.000-07:002008-03-23T23:16:00.000-07:00We are indeed working on a better out of the box e...We are indeed working on a better out of the box environment for developers and others who might be more used to what Linux has now been providing for years. The project is <A HREF="http://opensolaris.org/" REL="nofollow">OpenSolaris</A>, and while it has a ways to go before it's "enterprise-ready" (IMHO), we're making a lot of progress.<BR/><BR/>The <A HREF="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/" REL="nofollow">installer</A> is brand new, and installs to ZFS, eliminating any need for partitioning. We're also scrapping the existing packaging system and replacing it with a <A HREF="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/pkg/" REL="nofollow">new design</A>. It's not pkg-get and it's not apt-get, so it is another thing to learn, but we're pretty sure that it'll be intuitive to do the things you need to do on a regular basis. And it will interoperate with the old packaging system in the most important ways -- in particular, sunfreeware and blastwave packages should continue to install and work.<BR/><BR/>And yes, we're getting quite serious about Python. The new packaging system is being written almost completely in python (need some C to interface with some deeper system-level things), quite a few other folks in the OS group are catching on. I don't know that any of us has actually dorked with Twisted yet, but obviously it's pretty important, and we may end up using it. We're also stuck with Python 2.4 at the moment, but once we have some free time, we'll need to test everything we have with 2.5 and make the switch.<BR/><BR/>You might also take a look to see if any of the OpenSolaris-derived distros are of any interest. Nexenta is probably the most popular (it's essentially a Debian userland on top of the core Solaris bits), but Belenix and Schillix are also available.<BR/><BR/>DanekUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00807532851964217845noreply@blogger.com